Avaya/Cisco comparison report

penelope · July 17th, 2007, 09:59 PM

Got this from Avaya

martinyoung · July 18th, 2007, 09:32 AM

Interesting document, looks like Avaya beats Cisco in just about everything. This should help your case.

A-Train · July 24th, 2007, 12:16 PM

It is an interesting article. The one thing I have always wondered is what sort of actual data they use to calculate the cost of MACs. I seem to recall reading someone's opinion on this site that a lot of that was probably Cisco propaganda to justify their system. In this article they say a TDM MAC (Move, Add or Change) costs $168 on average while a VoIP one costs $20. I can't figure out how. I have done both and don't see how it takes more time or effort to do a TDM MAC than an IP one. Assuming the wiring plants for TDM voice and data are both properly installed and labeled the primary difference between the two is that with TDM you use a cross connect tool and with VoIP you use patch cables. I think the analysis is skewed. Do they assume that with VoIP your empty locations are cross connected while with TDM your empty locations are not punched down? If they are connected then it is really simple (especially with TTI). The only assumption I would make is that an untrained person could possible connect patch cables on a punch down block more easily than they could cross connect a TDM system.

m777erlin · July 25th, 2007, 10:20 PM

Interesting article and good point.

-mike

July 18th, 2007, 09:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
martinyoung Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,376	Re: Avaya/Cisco comparison report Interesting document, looks like Avaya beats Cisco in just about everything. This should help your case. __________________ Marty Retired Avaya DSIC tech

July 24th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
A-Train PBXtech GOLD 100+ posts Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 214	Re: Avaya/Cisco comparison report It is an interesting article. The one thing I have always wondered is what sort of actual data they use to calculate the cost of MACs. I seem to recall reading someone's opinion on this site that a lot of that was probably Cisco propaganda to justify their system. In this article they say a TDM MAC (Move, Add or Change) costs $168 on average while a VoIP one costs $20. I can't figure out how. I have done both and don't see how it takes more time or effort to do a TDM MAC than an IP one. Assuming the wiring plants for TDM voice and data are both properly installed and labeled the primary difference between the two is that with TDM you use a cross connect tool and with VoIP you use patch cables. I think the analysis is skewed. Do they assume that with VoIP your empty locations are cross connected while with TDM your empty locations are not punched down? If they are connected then it is really simple (especially with TTI). The only assumption I would make is that an untrained person could possible connect patch cables on a punch down block more easily than they could cross connect a TDM system. Last edited by A-Train; July 24th, 2007 at 12:21 PM.

July 25th, 2007, 10:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
m777erlin PBXtech SILVER 25+ posts Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 25	Re: Avaya/Cisco comparison report Interesting article and good point. -mike

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