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Old April 20th, 2004, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Definity One

Hey all,

Trying to sort out what's needed to connect a Definity One to an IP Office. I keep seeing references to definity one not needing C-Lan and MedPro boards, but all the documentation I can find on specifically connecting to IP Office, or indeed definity IP trunking in general, involves these circuit packs. Definity One doesn't seem to be very well documented, at least from what I've found. Can anyone help me out? Do I need these cards or not? If not, what do I do instead? I have a def1 here in my lab, as well as IP Office.

I used to be pretty good on the ECS, but got away from definity shortly before the definity one, IP600, and then MultiVantage line came out. Trying to get a grip on the particulars of each of these is a bit of a headache :)

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Old April 20th, 2004, 10:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Definity One

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Trying to sort out what's needed to connect a Definity One to an IP Office. I keep seeing references to definity one not needing C-Lan and MedPro boards, but all the documentation I can find on specifically connecting to IP Office, or indeed definity IP trunking in general, involves these circuit packs. Definity One doesn't seem to be very well documented, at least from what I've found. Can anyone help me out? Do I need these cards or not? If not, what do I do instead? I have a def1 here in my lab, as well as IP Office.
Here is the manual ...

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Old April 20th, 2004, 10:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Definity One

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Here is the manual ...

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Thanks Al - read through that already. What's boggling me is Definity One specifics. Do I need a CLan and MedPro on definity one? The ECS R9 administration for networking manual says no (pp. 59) but offers no guidance on what to do instead... argh.

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Re: Definity One

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Thanks Al - read through that already. What's boggling me is Definity One specifics. Do I need a CLan and MedPro on definity one? The ECS R9 administration for networking manual says no (pp. 59) but offers no guidance on what to do instead... argh.
The only difference between an IP600 and a Definity One is the cabinet ... rack-mounted G600 as opposed to a CMC. This document was created in November 2002, long after the R9 release of the Definity One was out. It specifically references the CLAN and MEDPRO administration so I would believe that they are required. I could be wrong, but I don't know how the call would be facilitated without them.

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Old April 20th, 2004, 02:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Definity One

Well, there is a fork in the proverbial road here. You can network to the IP Office without the CLAN and MedPro via T1 or PRI HOWEVER that job aid is specifically for h.323 trunking in which case both those cards would be necessary.
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Old April 20th, 2004, 07:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Definity One

We had a Definity One system, now an 8100 with the upgrade to rel 11. Yes you will need a CLAN and MEDPRO card to make this work. The IP port on the back of the unit has to be used for administration of the system and on this system you don't log into the CLAN as you would with a Prologic, so you will have three IP interfaces after installing the cards. Note that if you grow and want to add more CLANs and MEDPROs to this system you won't be able to because it has limits and you won't find them until you try to make the changes you thought you could.

We run three locations off of this unit with a total of less than fifty people, at the main office with 6408D+ phones, another location with 4612 IP phones linked across a shared T1, and the latest location with shared T1 setup as an IP trunk. The IP office site uses 6408D+ phones.

If I had a Definity One (i.e. 8100) given to me I'd still have to think hard about using it. Someone in the organization bought this before I came onboard with this group. I guess it would make a good foot rest.
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Old April 21st, 2004, 07:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Definity One

foot rest - hehehehehe. That's kind of the opinion I've been coming to. Unfortunately, my company put in several of these (including the first one in canada apparently) before I came on board. Now I've got a cust with Def1 at HQ and 1 IP Office in a smaller location, I want to sell them more IP Offices on the strength of linking them all to HQ.

I've been doing more research, it appears to me you can OPTIONALLY (boy Avaya loves that word) purchase the co-resident CLAN feature, meaning you can use the NT lan port as your clan interface, but it looks like I will indeed still need a medpro.

Interestingly enough I also found the first excellent quality overview of a product I've ever seen Avaya do - for the S8x00 w/ g700's. Now I'm kinda salivating to play with one - they look pretty cool. Too bad the old definity cards aren't compatible, or I'd see if we could upgrade our def1 customers :)

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Old May 3rd, 2004, 02:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Definity One

Have one S8100 I service, You will need CLAN and Medpro, and set h.323 trunking, good luck,, this machine is not the kindest in the world, (If you like fishing you now have a new anchor)
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